Comments on: ORM in the PHP World http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/ databases and code goodness Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:17:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ORM в мире PHP | Блог веб-разработчика http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-657 ORM в мире PHP | Блог веб-разработчика Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:41:28 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-657 [...] Comprehensive list of the object relational mapping tools and frameworks. part one: php • ORM in the PHP World • ORM in PHP • PHP ActiveRecord with PHP 5.3 • LightOrm: Описание на [...] [...] Comprehensive list of the object relational mapping tools and frameworks. part one: php • ORM in the PHP World • ORM in PHP • PHP ActiveRecord with PHP 5.3 • LightOrm: Описание на [...]

]]> By: Mark http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-487 Mark Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:17:59 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-487 Can you post some more examples of Domain Objects with Data Mappers done in PHP. In your slides you said that this was your favorite technique. Thanks Can you post some more examples of Domain Objects with Data Mappers done in PHP. In your slides you said that this was your favorite technique. Thanks

]]> By: Trophaeum http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-479 Trophaeum Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:41:47 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-479 I am a propel dev so I am biased but we rarely use Creole anymore, we rely extremely heavily on PDO since 1.3 was released, seems it really got glossed over considering the amount you looked at, the Criteria example shown isn't valid either. Not that I mind, it's some publicity for Propel which people seem to be ignoring even when its a good solution but I dislike having incorrect information spread about it. I am a propel dev so I am biased but we rarely use Creole anymore, we rely extremely heavily on PDO since 1.3 was released, seems it really got glossed over considering the amount you looked at, the Criteria example shown isn’t valid either. Not that I mind, it’s some publicity for Propel which people seem to be ignoring even when its a good solution but I dislike having incorrect information spread about it.

]]> By: Philip Graham http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-475 Philip Graham Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:30:54 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-475 As a propel user I'd like to point out that it no longer uses Creole. It now uses PDO for it's database access. As a propel user I’d like to point out that it no longer uses Creole. It now uses PDO for it’s database access.

]]> By: Bill Karwin http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-460 Bill Karwin Sat, 30 May 2009 16:04:35 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-460 "...anything that has to do with the database is the ORM..." That's just not accurate, and saying it -- even informally -- only makes developers more confused than they already are about database programming. “…anything that has to do with the database is the ORM…”

That’s just not accurate, and saying it — even informally — only makes developers more confused than they already are about database programming.

]]> By: maggie http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-449 maggie Tue, 26 May 2009 15:09:13 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-449 Bill - I also prefer writing SQL whenever possible (it's not really that difficult!) I tried to talk about the idea in the PHP world that anything that has to do with the database is the ORM (much like I sometimes get called a DBA even if I just write some SQL). Classes that generate SQL are sometimes considered an ORM because, hey, there's objects AND tables in one class! It must be ORM! :) This definitely isn't the case, and I wanted to illustrate this by using a concrete example. I've very glad there seems to be a lot of interest about ORMs in PHP - I am very curious to see what the PHP community will come up with over time to solve this problem. (Maybe we'll do away with relational databases altogether? *gasp*) Bill – I also prefer writing SQL whenever possible (it’s not really that difficult!) I tried to talk about the idea in the PHP world that anything that has to do with the database is the ORM (much like I sometimes get called a DBA even if I just write some SQL). Classes that generate SQL are sometimes considered an ORM because, hey, there’s objects AND tables in one class! It must be ORM! :) This definitely isn’t the case, and I wanted to illustrate this by using a concrete example.

I’ve very glad there seems to be a lot of interest about ORMs in PHP – I am very curious to see what the PHP community will come up with over time to solve this problem. (Maybe we’ll do away with relational databases altogether? *gasp*)

]]> By: maggie http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-448 maggie Tue, 26 May 2009 15:04:24 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-448 Joshua - I mentioned Symfony in the presentation specifically for this purpose: it uses an ORM as a plug-in instead of being one, which I thought was kind of unique among the available frameworks and worth mentioning. Thanks for pointing it out, too! Joshua – I mentioned Symfony in the presentation specifically for this purpose: it uses an ORM as a plug-in instead of being one, which I thought was kind of unique among the available frameworks and worth mentioning. Thanks for pointing it out, too!

]]> By: Kestas http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-444 Kestas Mon, 25 May 2009 13:44:36 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-444 Just what I was looking for. Brief overview of php orms :) Thanks! Just what I was looking for. Brief overview of php orms :) Thanks!

]]> By: Lewis Zhang http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-439 Lewis Zhang Sun, 24 May 2009 13:22:56 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-439 Lewis from the CoughPHP team here. It's nice to see more interest in orm's for php. You mention in your slides that CoughPHP is "very light, very simple" which is absolutely true—and we have worked very hard to keep it that way! But don't forget to check out some of our more advanced features like collections and code generation. Drop me a line if I can be of any use to your writing. Lewis from the CoughPHP team here. It’s nice to see more interest in orm’s for php.

You mention in your slides that CoughPHP is “very light, very simple” which is absolutely true—and we have worked very hard to keep it that way! But don’t forget to check out some of our more advanced features like collections and code generation.

Drop me a line if I can be of any use to your writing.

]]> By: Joshua May http://maggienelson.com/2009/05/orm-in-the-php-world/comment-page-1/#comment-426 Joshua May Fri, 22 May 2009 09:18:32 +0000 http://maggienelson.com/?p=262#comment-426 Just a note, too, symfony isn't an ORM - it just uses third party ORMs (Propel, Doctrine, etc) Just a note, too, symfony isn’t an ORM – it just uses third party ORMs (Propel, Doctrine, etc)

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